Could the Cy-Hawk series be played every other year

BillBrasky4Cy

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You couldn't do an everyother year game in the series. If the schools were to take a break (which is incredibly dumb) it would have to be a 2 years on 2 years off deal. This would give Iowa their chance to schedule N Illinois at Soldier Field.
 

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Barta won't let us out of the series. We already tried and he said no so not sure why it keeps getting discussed

LOL there is zero chance or validity that we tried to back out of a game that has brought us 2 of the 5 largest crowds in JTS history. That would be absolutely silly for us to do.
 

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This isnt a new topic for Iowa fans, not sure why you think it is.

I like the game and think it should stay but this just didnt pop up in the few months.
In my original response I did mention this being a topic that's been brought up in the past. It's now coming to light again and I honestly do believe it's a just a coincidence that Iowa State is immensely better than they have been. Either way, it doesn't matter because the game is here to stay for a long time.
 

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LOL there is zero chance or validity that we tried to back out of a game that has brought us 2 of the 5 largest crowds in JTS history. That would be absolutely silly for us to do.

He's ran with this one for awhile now.
 
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Your stats are flipped around. Try 6-7 of the last 10. That even includes the year we got throttled and you fell to the juggernaut that is NDSU.

Using Sagarin's ratings, below is a list of the toughest OOC game the last 10 seasons for Iowa.

2009- Arizona
2010- Arizona
2011- Iowa State
2012- Northern Illinois
2013- Northern Illinois
2014- Pitt
2015- Pitt
2016- ND State
2017- Iowa State
2018- Iowa State
 

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https://theathletic.com/1106742/201...ent-scheduling-position-battles-nate-stanley/

Scott Dochterman from the Athletic has an article online today stating that "It’s frustrating for Iowa fans to watch their rivals compete against powerhouse Power-5 opponents while the Hawkeyes’ only major-conference foe every year is Iowa State."


The major hurdle (Problem) is that Iowa says it must have 7 home games EVERY YEAR. That doesn't leave much opportunity to schedule another power 5 team when you are not willing to schedule a home and home. They only have that chance when they play Iowa State at home.
 

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Using Sagarin's ratings, below is a list of the toughest OOC game the last 10 seasons for Iowa.

2009- Arizona
2010- Arizona
2011- Iowa State
2012- Northern Illinois
2013- Northern Illinois
2014- Pitt
2015- Pitt
2016- ND State
2017- Iowa State
2018- Iowa State
This list makes sense. Arizona was pretty good those years, NIU had it's best seasons and even played in the Orange Bowl one of those years, we were garbage in 2014 and 2015 (beat Iowa in '14 btw), NDSU was an absolute powerhouse, and the last two years we've been good. Not gonna argue with that.
 
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Wisconsin and Minnesota play home and homes with much worse programs.

Minnesota would love to do it. They'd get another sell out in TCF that year (in addition to whomever they play between Iowa and Wisconsin at home).

I’d say they schedule games with programs much better than ISU historically or at least very similar. No one worse than ISU.

Wisconsin future P5s
Notre Dane in Green Bay
Notre Dame in Chicago
Washington State
@ Washington State
Alabama
@ Alabama
Pittsburgh
@ Pittsburgh
@ UCLA
UCLA
@ Virginia Tech
Virginia Tech

Minnesota future P5s
BYU
at Colorado
Colorado
@ UNC
UNC
@ BYU
Mississippi State
@ Mississippi State
 
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I can't read the article, but what is their concern? In the current playoff format Iowa has had one year with an opportunity to be included in the college football playoff. All they needed to do was beat Michigan State in the B10 Championship, yet they failed to do so. In every other year Iowa has not come anywhere close to even being discussed for the college football playoff.

Without making the college football playoff, Iowa's post season scheduling is based entirely on their performance , and final position within the B10 - with the slight exception being a potential at large bid in a NY6 game.

Unless either school plans to start making the CFP soon there is very little to gain from eliminating the game, as any bowl game will be dictated by conference performance. On the other hand, eliminating the game removes what is typically a very exciting event from the state. The entire week surrounding the game feels almost like a holiday, and its hard to list other events in the state that draw the attention the game does.
 
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BOTH teams could schedule other Power 5 teams.

Iowa's non-conference games this year are:
Miami-Ohio
Middle Tennessee State

Iowa State's are:
UNI
Louisiana-Monroe

Obviously room for both teams to upgrade their schedule if they really wanted to. Iowa and Iowa State both having decent teams this year is the best thing that can happen to both of them from a recruiting standpoint.

Both teams are being ranked in pre-season polls. Has that ever happened before?
 

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Wow, Wisky got 'Bama to agree to a home-home series starting 2024 ?@? Impressive, but I will never, ever want to drop the series with Iowa.
 

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ISU and Iowa fans are both delusional on who they’d actually be able to replace that game with. ISU isn’t going to get Wisconsin or Minnesota to agree to a home/home nor is Iowa going to get Oklahoma or Notre Dame like they think they would. Even if either school could get a high profile game, itd take 7+ years to get it on schedule and who knows what would change in that time.

Really? We couldn't get deals with Wazzu, Oregon St., Kentucky, NCSt, Miss St., Pitt, Rutgers, BC, or L-Ville? And what about some nostalgia series with CU, NU? I think we could convince Minnesota too.

I understand that scheduling requires setting up dates out into the future but these P5 schools scheduling series seems pretty low risk to me.
 

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Really? We couldn't get deals with Wazzu, Oregon St., Kentucky, NCSt, Miss St., Pitt, Rutgers, BC, or L-Ville? And what about some nostalgia series with CU, NU? I think we could convince Minnesota too.

I understand that scheduling requires setting up dates out into the future but these P5 schools scheduling series seems pretty low risk to me.
West Virginia plays NCST as well as Missouri this year. If we wanted to do something like that we definitely could. I think it would be a cool thing to do every so often but I like consistently having an automatic two wins instead of only one.
 
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Personally, I'd be all in on a two-on, two-off schedule. It would allow us to schedule someone else we haven't played, or just schedule an extra MAC team if the program isn't very competitive. But, the whole "we need to have 7 home games" thing is BS. A ton of teams play 6 home games and do just fine. I'm sure that iowa can afford it. If you want to schedule another P5, just remove the MAC or Sunbelt team from the future schedule and do it. Pretty sure that WV is playing 11 P5's this season and they don't have near the budget that iowa does.

I find it laughable that ISU is "preventing" them from scheduling other P5 teams. If you really want to do it, then just do it and quit complaining. In reality, KF likes the game, especially since he is winning it more often than not. He's not going to give up his easy path to 8 wins and a huge paycheck. Why would he?
 

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Really? We couldn't get deals with Wazzu, Oregon St., Kentucky, NCSt, Miss St., Pitt, Rutgers, BC, or L-Ville? And what about some nostalgia series with CU, NU? I think we could convince Minnesota too.

I understand that scheduling requires setting up dates out into the future but these P5 schools scheduling series seems pretty low risk to me.

We could get all the schools you listed. The delusion I’ve seen is ISU fans suggesting
Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Virginia Tech, Michigan state etc etc Would agree to a home/home series with ISU.
 
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