Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

FriendlySpartan

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What would you do if you were president at Michigan or Texas and Fox/ESPN tells you you’ll make another $50 million or whatever if you do this? Especially if you know (or believe) that the league is in motion with or without you?

I think it’s just a matter of time.
Michigan says no, they wont even participate in NIL. Texas seems to be of the belief that it was the big12 holding them back which is absurd so who knows.
 
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Best guess?

Bama, LSU, Texas, OU, GA, Fla, TAMU, Auburn, Tenn
OSU, Mich, USC, ND, PSU, UCLA, probably 1 of
Oregon, Clemson, Miami

maybes: FSU, Washington, Arkansas, Ok St, Ole Miss, Mich St, Wisky, Nebby, IA
If you do that the problem is you are greatly limiting the ratings. A single super league will have drastically lower ratings because CFB isn't the NFL. Most people don't just pick up a team from out of state. Right now cfb is in a dangerous place but as of right now there are still 5 power conferences and no team has been relegated to a non power 5. When that contraction starts happening for more then a handful of teams then that is going to be a massive problem.
 

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Ah, so they're going to break away from the B1G and SEC, form their own league, all the elites are going to play each other throughout the regular season, maybe mixed in with a few of the have-nots?
OSU nearly went independent. BIG is not as stable as you might want.
 

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Best guess?

Bama, LSU, Texas, OU, GA, Fla, TAMU, Auburn, Tenn
OSU, Mich, USC, ND, PSU, UCLA, probably 1 of
Oregon, Clemson, Miami

maybes: FSU, Washington, Arkansas, Ok St, Ole Miss, Mich St, Wisky, Nebby, IA
Yeah but Bama, Texas, tOSU, ND, Michigan, PSU, Georgia, OU.... maybe LSU, maybe Auburn, are the only programs on that really elite brand level. That's 10 megaultrasuperleague members at best. Oregon? They haven't even gotten a B1G invite.
 

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The other schools have an EQUAL Vote. Tell Ohio State they can leave. They can fight for an at large bid and negotiate their own TV package. And we won’t schedule Ohio State for ANY games.
Good luck ********.
That's exactly why I think the breakaway is what will happen. If the other teams wont take less money and wont kick others out then joining with the SEC teams or just going there completely is what's going to happen eventually
 

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The other schools have an EQUAL Vote. Tell Ohio State they can leave. They can fight for an at large bid and negotiate their own TV package. And we won’t schedule Ohio State for ANY games.
Good luck ********.
I dont think you understand.

Its not going to go like that, and it wont be just OSU.

What will happen is say everyone in the Big 10 is getting an equal $100M.

Teams Like OSU, Mich, USC, PSU, will say they bring in the majority of the value to the conference.

Similarly, to Bama, GA, TX, OU etc in the SEC.

What will happen is this group of schools will demand a larger share or they will break away and take their media value with them. Leaving the remaining schools with a much lower value. So what will happen is either you give the top teams a larger share and take a smaller share, and keep everything else. Or you lose them and lose even more.

But it will be a group that demands the larger revenue and not just 1, and a few of the middle schools might stand to keep the same value, and be willing to be swayed with the upper valued schools. The lower values know its either agree or be relegated.
 

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That's exactly why I think the breakaway is what will happen. If the other teams wont take less money and wont kick others out then joining with the SEC teams or just going there completely is what's going to happen eventually
So just to be clear you think that OSU who will already be making more money then the SEC teams, will throw a fit to make more, then pack up and leave and go to the SEC who also doesn't have unequal sharing to demand unequal sharing there? That's a giant leap in logic.
 

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I dont think you understand.

Its not going to go like that, and it wont be just OSU.

What will happen is say everyone in the Big 10 is getting an equal $100M.

Teams Like OSU, Mich, USC, PSU, will say they bring in the majority of the value to the conference.

Similarly, to Bama, GA, TX, OU etc in the SEC.

What will happen is this group of schools will demand a larger share or they will break away and take their media value with them. Leaving the remaining schools with a much lower value. So what will happen is either you give the top teams a larger share and take a smaller share, and keep everything else. Or you lose them and lose even more.

But it will be a group that demands the larger revenue and not just 1, and a few of the middle schools might stand to keep the same value, and be willing to be swayed with the upper valued schools. The lower values know its either agree or be relegated.
OK nothing I will say will convince you but no one outside of big12 territory thinks like that. You're reacting as if your GF left you for a richer guy so you just automatically assume that every other girl you are with will do the same. I will concede that anything could happen but you also have to admit that your past dealing with how the Big12 was managed is shaping these beliefs more then the reality of what might occur.
 
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Not exactly sure.
As their AD said, it was a thought for less then a second before he smartened up. Dude was just frustrated, it was never remotely considered or would actually happen.
Thought for a second he said, which was said after he mentioned he discussed it with the President and then His wife later. Good old Gene, our old AD which we realized, he says whatever helps him. Not one you can trust.
 

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So just to be clear you think that OSU who will already be making more money then the SEC teams, will throw a fit to make more, then pack up and leave and go to the SEC who also doesn't have unequal sharing to demand unequal sharing there? That's a giant leap in logic.
Well, Texas was making the most of any team out there the last couple years while in the big XII. What are their plans?
 
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I dont think you understand.

Its not going to go like that, and it wont be just OSU.

What will happen is say everyone in the Big 10 is getting an equal $100M.

Teams Like OSU, Mich, USC, PSU, will say they bring in the majority of the value to the conference.

Similarly, to Bama, GA, TX, OU etc in the SEC.

What will happen is this group of schools will demand a larger share or they will break away and take their media value with them. Leaving the remaining schools with a much lower value. So what will happen is either you give the top teams a larger share and take a smaller share, and keep everything else. Or you lose them and lose even more.

But it will be a group that demands the larger revenue and not just 1, and a few of the middle schools might stand to keep the same value, and be willing to be swayed with the upper valued schools. The lower values know its either agree or be relegated.
So help me understand how exactly this would work. OSU, Mich, USC, PSU, Bama, GA, TX, and OU go off to form their own superleague. Then in the regular season, they all play each other? Then at the end of the regular season when two of them have emerged as the two best for that season, they play in a superleague title game?
 
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So just to be clear you think that OSU who will already be making more money then the SEC teams, will throw a fit to make more, then pack up and leave and go to the SEC who also doesn't have unequal sharing to demand unequal sharing there? That's a giant leap in logic.
I think the point is All these major players in both the Big 10 and SEC will be pushing for the same thing in the future. Meaning they will play off each other for leverage.

This is not going to happen this round. But possible in future round.
 

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Well, Texas was making the most of any team out there the last couple years while in the big XII. What are their plans?
Texas situation is so weird. They didn't need the money for them it was a perception problem that the big12 was a weak or lesser conference which part of the reason for that perception was the fact that texas has been very bad. You could argue that they left for stability reasons but they were a huge cause of the instability so who knows with them.
 
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Yeah but Bama, Texas, tOSU, ND, Michigan, PSU, Georgia, OU.... maybe LSU, maybe Auburn, are the only programs on that really elite brand level. That's 10 megaultrasuperleague members at best. Oregon? They haven't even gotten a B1G invite.
My mine are:

Money schools from the P2(11):
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
USC
Alabama
Georgia
Florida
LSU
Texas
Oklahoma
Notre Dame

Teams from the ACC who would add on for sure:
Clemson
Florida State
North Carolina(could maaaaaaybe be bubble but I'll give it to them)

Teams who help cover coast to coast - Oregon and Washington haven't gotten their invites because the Big 10 already have 2 teams on the west coast. Here though we only have USC so to not lose entire regions they're in too.

We're at 16 now. 4 spots left go to whoever makes the most money between:
Wisconsin
Michigan State
Nebraska
Iowa
UCLA
Auburn
Tennessee
Kentucky
Texas A&M
Miami
Virginia

Out of those 10 I think it would be Wisconsin, Michigan State, Auburn, Texas A&M, and Tennessee due to brands and rivalries with the "in crowd".
 

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