What's ISU's Skeleton in the Closet?

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Who said anything about his politics? Perhaps the fact that Royce owes a quarter of a million dollars in child support that he refuses to pay is the reason why he's an embarrassment.
"Running for congress" is literally what the post said. That's politics. Reading sure is hard.

And yes that's utterly embarrassing that he owes that
 
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Who said anything about his politics? Perhaps the fact that Royce owes a quarter of a million dollars in child support that he refuses to pay is the reason why he's an embarrassment.

His interviews from years ago with long winded answers that felt like he was just blaming everyone else instead of really taking on his issues iirc weren't nationally huge but I didn't come out of it a bigger fan.

Again not on a national level of scrutiny but it's pretty embarrassing if there's truth to some players needing to be babysat during their time at ISU in the Fred years.
 

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Not something to be ashamed of, but tragic:
The odd string of former player deaths from early 00’s guys.
Jason Berryman
Hiawatha Rutland
Ennis Haywood
Cris Love
Stevie Hicks

Hicks, Haywood, and Rutland make up our top rushers from 2006-2008. Chilling.
There are more than these, strangely/sadly enough.
 
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Someone could look at you wrong and you'd call them a homophobe. You're not exactly the definition of sanity when it comes to this board

I'm not calling him these things. He literally had these things in his bio. He called himself these things

Also, I'll take that as a compliment from a nutjob like you
 

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"Running for congress" is literally what the post said. That's politics. Reading sure is hard.

And yes that's utterly embarrassing that he owes that
You know Brian is a Republican right? So there's not difference in politics there. Brian is probably talking about how Royce completely debased himself to get in on the grift while still not paying the bills he owes.
 

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His interviews from years ago with long winded answers that felt like he was just blaming everyone else instead of really taking on his issues iirc weren't nationally huge but I didn't come out of it a bigger fan.

Again not on a national level of scrutiny but it's pretty embarrassing if there's truth to some players needing to be babysat during their time at ISU in the Fred years.
Chris Babb and Matt Abdelmessih had to babysit Royce his two years here. That's 100% a fact.
 

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I will never understand this dumb take. I will outright acknowledge McCarney didn’t win nearly as much as he should have, mostly because anytime he got a lead he would get conservative to protect it instead of crushing the opponent’s throat, and by the end of 2006 it was past time to move on from him. But calling him embarrassing is one of the worst takes there is. This current era of Cyclone football we’re enjoying doesn’t exist without McCarney laying the foundation for it.
I took a day to respond to this. Obviously you should of stopped after the first 4 words of your reply.

When a university announces the hire of a new football coach then the media blows up about domestic abuse allegations the NEXT day. It's the definition of egg on your face. Then the AD proves the university had absolutely no idea about those allegations by deciding to retain him but reduce Mac's salary after the fact.

There is nothing in this thread that any reasonable person would consider more embarrassing to the university than this incompetence. If you read the Post article you'd see Smith admitted to not being aware of the allegations and stated he was embarrassed.
 
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I took a day to respond to this. Obviously you should of stopped after the first 4 words of your reply.

When a university announces the hire of a new football coach then the media blows up about domestic abuse allegations the NEXT day. It's the definition of egg on your face. Then the AD proves the university had absolutely no idea about those allegations by deciding to retain him but reduce Mac's salary after the fact.

There is nothing in this thread that any reasonable person would consider more embarrassing to the university than this incompetence. If you read the Post article you'd see Smith admitted to not being aware of the allegations and stated he was embarrassed.

Wasn't the story with Mac that he threw his keys at his wife? Was it ever alleged that he actually struck her?

I don't disagree that it was an embarrassment and he probably doesn't keep his job today. But it also seems like that might have been the rare instance where standing by him was the right thing to do. Charges were dropped, after all, and to my knowledge hasn't had so much as a hint of that kind of behavior since. (I don't recall if there were rumors of that before his hire, but I'd guess not.)

Of course, you can't predict in 1995 what the future will look like, either.
 

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I took a day to respond to this. Obviously you should of stopped after the first 4 words of your reply.

When a university announces the hire of a new football coach then the media blows up about domestic abuse allegations the NEXT day. It's the definition of egg on your face. Then the AD proves the university had absolutely no idea about those allegations by deciding to retain him but reduce Mac's salary after the fact.

There is nothing in this thread that any reasonable person would consider more embarrassing to the university than this incompetence. If you read the Post article you'd see Smith admitted to not being aware of the allegations and stated he was embarrassed.

Funny - the only thing I keep seeing in this thread is that the allegations were blown completely out of proportion and the only embarrassment that should be felt is by the people that want to keep bringing it up 25 years later.
 

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Wasn't the story with Mac that he threw his keys at his wife? Was it ever alleged that he actually struck her?

I don't disagree that it was an embarrassment and he probably doesn't keep his job today. But it also seems like that might have been the rare instance where standing by him was the right thing to do. Charges were dropped, after all, and to my knowledge hasn't had so much as a hint of that kind of behavior since. (I don't recall if there were rumors of that before his hire, but I'd guess not.)

Of course, you can't predict in 1995 what the future will look like, either.
The embarrassment was Mac had a no contact order, Gene Smith announced the hire, story came out, AD admitted he had no idea of the situation. Plain and simple this was gross incompetence.
 

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The embarrassment was Mac had a no contact order, Gene Smith announced the hire, story came out, AD admitted he had no idea of the situation. Plain and simple this was gross incompetence.

Definitely. No argument there.

Watching people come up with examples of "skeletons in the closet" has been a little bit like watching Alanis Morissette come up with examples of irony. Most of these things were well-publicized.
 
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Definitely. No argument there.

Watching people come up with examples of "skeletons in the closet" has been a little bit like watching Alanis Morissette come up with examples of irony. Most of these things were well-publicized.

Agreed on this. A lot of people don't seem to know the definition. Id say its limited to things that aren't all that well known, particularly nationally, especially things that remained the subject of rumors for years
 
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