*** Official #23 IOWA STATE VS Kansas State Game(Day) Thread ***

CYDJ

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Certain degrees yes, but saying the o-line sucks when that's exactly what they did tonight is just calling it what it is. Those guys when they watch film are going to think the exact same thing. Sometimes you have to take your licks. I've been told by co-workers or bosses that my effort was really poor in "x" situation or that my job I did on a project really was not well done and I need to be much better or risk not getting those types of projects.

I think you made a very good point here. Being critical does not automatically mean you have to be a jerk about it! There is a difference between saying they "suck" and saying their execution was incorrect. OR, stating things like they have sucked all year, etc. It's a semantics thing with me. People should run a filter, if they couldn't say it to the coaches or players, then they probably shouldn't say it at all. You think you could get away with explaining your co-workers' failings to them the way some on here vent about "our" team?

We may be getting close to a breakthrough!
 

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K state and Iowa are hard for isu to beat because they run the ball and normally have big bruising lines and running backs. Our defense just isn’t designed to take that pounding, it’s better against ok state or Texas tech or even ou where can get our linebackers in space to make plays on smaller backs qbs, and receivers. It’s designed to stop an offense like ours that is going to pass 50x come hell or high water. Most teams we face are never going to commit to the run like that, it’s pick your poison really. They do ok with those heavy offenses, but it’s not designed with that in mind.

I do think k state saw a specific spot they could attack where we are undermanned, one that has been there for quite some time frankly, and just never moved away from that.

Oklahoma State has the best running back ISU saw all season.

And ISU had every chance to beat Iowa going away regardless of what Iowa did.

It's just little things and ISU was poor at little things all season.
 

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I guess I don’t understand your comment. People that question coaching decisions are bad fans? Hmm...I guess this world must just be full of people that are not nearly as full of sunshine and rainbows like you must be. There are moments in every game where these coaches make mistakes. The frustrating thing is when they continue to make them instead of adjusting.

but I guess that makes me a bad fan to state the obvious.

I think the fact that they put "Nonsense" at the end of this post meant the opposite of what you thought it meant.
 

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Sometimes the way CMC coaches one would think he doesn’t want to be at ISU anymore or he’s accepted the Florida State job already. Like seriously, Purdy is a dual threat right? Last game of the season and Brock doesn’t run the ball at all. So much for the Prove It stuff. Anyways I will take this coaching stuff any day than Paul Rhoads.
 

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Tried reading all the postgame comments, but couldn't keep up. So just jumped ahead to stick my own opinion into the mix.
-The procedure penalties were huge. Started or set back so many drives. Frustrating, inexcusable.
- College sports are so much based on emotion. KSU had it. ISU just didn't, but that's not the same as "don't care" or "quit."
- Brock didn't have it tonight. He's 20. It happens.
- If Hall's 38 yard run hadn't been called back, ... Game changing play, IMHO.
- 2 TOs, 3 points. That really hurt.
- I love the arguments about why we aren't winning the national championship or, at least conference, instead of whether we're better than Kansas.
 

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CMC in his 4th year here gets trucked by Kliemen in his 1st year at KSU. And we have quite a bit more talent on the field too btw IMO.

But I'm sure we'll hear the same old BS after the game from CMC about how proud he is of his team's effort, that Purdy is God and he worships the ground he walks on, but we just have to keep working on the details and winning in the margins..... because you know.... that's what teams like ISU have to do to beat inferior teams like KSU.... right??

I'm just ticked off right now, sorry..... but I'm just tired of the same old act and excuses.
Would that be similiar to the same old krap you post complaining about CMC?

Btw, people that call themselves "dude" are definately not.
 

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Worst ISU in the new Campbell era, this a game you win going away. So disappointed and I am not a basketball fan, time to hibernate.
 

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I'm not sure they showed more effort. I thought we tried hard, but things didn't go our way much of the game and maybe they started pressing (which is not good in general.)

I do think K State did a better job of playing their game and we got Kstated. This how Kst wins every game they win.

I think they were more prepared and wanted it more than us. I bet Campbell would agree.
 
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Rockymtcy

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Yes tough guy is here! Civil discourse is not asking for dumb tag on someone's post who says the same thing you are thinking just in a different way. Also I love the, "I don't live on a message board..." You look stupid because here you are on a message board. You either are on them or not.
Pillow Fight!!!!!!!
 
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Sometimes the way CMC coaches one would think he doesn’t want to be at ISU anymore or he’s accepted the Florida State job already. Like seriously, Purdy is a dual threat right? Last game of the season and Brock doesn’t run the ball at all. So much for the Prove It stuff. Anyways I will take this coaching stuff any day than Paul Rhoads.

Wtf is this. Coachs' egos won't allow them to just lose a game because, "aw hell, I'm leaving anyway"
 

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Tried reading all the postgame comments, but couldn't keep up. So just jumped ahead to stick my own opinion into the mix.
-The procedure penalties were huge. Started or set back so many drives. Frustrating, inexcusable.
- College sports are so much based on emotion. KSU had it. ISU just didn't, but that's not the same as "don't care" or "quit."
- Brock didn't have it tonight. He's 20. It happens.
- If Hall's 38 yard run hadn't been called back, ... Game changing play, IMHO.
- 2 TOs, 3 points. That really hurt.
- I love the arguments about why we aren't winning the national championship or, at least conference, instead of whether we're better than Kansas.
Hall’s long run doesn’t happen without the hold.

this game was a total slap in the face. What a ******* pathetic showing.
 

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Sometimes the way CMC coaches one would think he doesn’t want to be at ISU anymore or he’s accepted the Florida State job already. Like seriously, Purdy is a dual threat right? Last game of the season and Brock doesn’t run the ball at all. So much for the Prove It stuff. Anyways I will take this coaching stuff any day than Paul Rhoads.

You must have missed the game because Purdy had designed runs.

They just didn't play off of anything else.
 

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20/20 hindsight, but considering the conditions, would putting Re-al in for a series or two may have been worth a try considering his running ability? He’s still alive right?
 
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The game probably wasn’t any worse than the Texas game last year, but it sure felt worse.

Something was severely off. Our timing on offense seemed completely out of whack.

Getting beat in the trenches can make you look bad, but I think our preparation was lacking too. Both are extremely disappointing...
 

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K state and Iowa are hard for isu to beat because they run the ball and normally have big bruising lines and running backs. Our defense just isn’t designed to take that pounding, it’s better against ok state or Texas tech or even ou where can get our linebackers in space to make plays on smaller backs qbs, and receivers. It’s designed to stop an offense like ours that is going to pass 50x come hell or high water. Most teams we face are never going to commit to the run like that, it’s pick your poison really. They do ok with those heavy offenses, but it’s not designed with that in mind.

I do think k state saw a specific spot they could attack where we are undermanned, one that has been there for quite some time frankly, and just never moved away from that.

I agree with what you are saying, but since we will play both Iowa and KSU on a yearly basis's, it might be a good idea to switch to a different defense for those games. Play more of a 4-2 defense or maybe even a 4-3 built to stop the run.

For many of us, this was the season of "what could have been", the offense was good, but we struggled early running the ball, and when we got the run game going, we started passing it way to often.
The defense could not get off the field from turnovers, and we gave up way to many 3rd and longs.
Baylor switched their defense over to our system, and then added a lot of blitzes, and they are getting turnovers because of it. We need to do the same, blitz a corner, cross the LB"ers in a blitz up the middle, and when we get there, make the tackle.

1 for 13 on 3rd downs is not going to win many games, we just do not have the talent to just show up and play, we need to execute, play smart and stop giving up big plays.
 
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I see the message boards are in meltdown as per usual. Was a poor effort from the coaches IMO. K State made good adjustments at half and we didn't. Pretty simple. Plus the penalties were pathetic tonight.
 
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I agree with what you are saying, but since we will play both Iowa and KSU on a yearly basis's, it might be a good idea to switch to a different defense for those games. Play more of a 4-2 defense or maybe even a 4-3 built to stop the run

I've often wondered why this couldn't be done not only in certain games but even within games. Maybe too complex of a change to be able to implement?
 
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