*** Official Iowa Vs IOWA STATE Gameday Thread ***

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I haven't read this whole thread ( not going to either), but my gut reaction is that we lost this game because our linebackers and secondary (especially Lanning) took terrible angles when Iowa ran the swing passes and crossing routes to their backs. They must have gained at least 100 yards after the catch because we were either late to react or simply didn't take the right angle to make a play. That is correctable so it gives me hope for future games.
 

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Hate the idea of moral victories, but I'm proud of our guys today. We forced them to pass and they executed. Our defense forced a ton of 3rd and longs and the Hoks converted.

Some thoughts:
BF called a good game (puke)
Montgomery is a ******* stud
Our lines aren't as bad as perceived

This is a definite positive from the game. In any given year the first (and often best) test of our OL and DL is the Iowa game. Most years Iowa's lines dominate ours, and their lines this year were better than ours as well, but Campbell has closed the gap drastically. Park was protected nearly all game long and the defense showed signs of breakthrough at times today, just shutting down Iowa's offense for lengths of time. There is still work to be done, though. Can you imagine if Montgomery had holes to run through instead of getting him open space via formation manipulation and playcalling?
 
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I haven't read this whole thread ( not going to either), but my gut reaction is that we lost this game because our linebackers and secondary (especially Lanning) took terrible angles when Iowa ran the swing passes and crossing routes to their backs. They must have gained at least 100 yards after the catch because we were either late to react or simply didn't take the right angle to make a play. That is correctable so it gives me hope for future games.


Not sure I'd put that one in the "correctable" category. At least not a problem that gets corrected over the course of a season. Especially for Lanning, who hasn't played defense in years.

I hate moral victories (and losing to bleeping Iowa) but this program is making progress and progress is a good thing!
 
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I haven't read this whole thread ( not going to either), but my gut reaction is that we lost this game because our linebackers and secondary (especially Lanning) took terrible angles when Iowa ran the swing passes and crossing routes to their backs. They must have gained at least 100 yards after the catch because we were either late to react or simply didn't take the right angle to make a play. That is correctable so it gives me hope for future games.

Wadley will do that to every team's LB corps and secondary. He's damn good in that role.
 
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So Iowa fan admits they won their Super Bowl.
 

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That was a tough one to swallow. Against a suspect passing game our secondary was a sieve. Stanley played better than I expected but he flat out missed 3 easy TD's on long passes. He could have had 400yds and 7 or 8 tds today. It was also frustrating to see we still can't close a ballgame or consistently catch the football.

Not saying you're wrong but Iowa scored TDs on 2 or perhaps even all 3 of the drives where he overthrew his receivers on long passes.

I really didn't think he was much coming in. But that's a decent QB, as much as I hate to say it.
 
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Bailey, Lima, Kamilo, Eyi. Needs to be our Dline. No more undersized slow DE please. Atleast have a guy with size.
I actually thought the D-Line did very well. There was very little running room inside. Our LBs need to get to the point of attack faster.
 
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All told, I was impressed. I figured ISU's offense would be good, and it was. But while the defense definitely had some key miscues, they looked much better than I anticipated. They definitely showed some potential in the third quarter. This team is going places this year, and none of them will be the Big 12 cellar. ISU finally has a real answer at QB for the first time since Seneca Wallace, and Campbell looks like the real deal.

Wait...what? Iowa has a reputation as one of the worst offensive teams in college football, had a first year starter making his debut on the road, and they scored 44 points (38 in regulation) and had 500 yards of offense on us...AT JTS. The defense is just bad. Really bad.
 

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Great game, everyone. If you would have told me that Iowa would have came back and won after being down 31-21 in the 4th I would have called you crazy.
 

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Amazing game. Wadley is a stud, Stanley grew up a lot in 1 week. Iowa's defense isnt as good as people thought.

ISU still has a ways to go defensively, offense is great once it gets rolling, both lines have come a long way.

Saying all that, we gave that damn thing away.
 
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Wait...what? Iowa has a reputation as one of the worst offensive teams in college football, had a first year starter making his debut on the road, and they scored 44 points (38 in regulation) and had 500 yards of offense on us...AT JTS. The defense is just bad. Really bad.

Wadley is a top player he makes everything pretty easy for the QB and TEs on Iowa.
 

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Until we reach a bright future I'm done looking for one. A loss like today is a prime example of we don't know how to win yet.

Hope it changes but until it does we are the same old cyclones
No, a loss today is a prime example of two teams slugging it out and one making just enough plays to come out on top. It has nothing to do with the past or the future.
 

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That's a pretty odd thing to be fixated on after a game where Iowa had 5 times the penalties called against them that ISU did.

Heck, one of the TWO calls Iowa State had against them all day was an intentional delay of game.

I don't think the officiating lost the game for the Clones today either. Blown coverages, terrible tackling, dropped passes, and some first-half butterflies for #10 were the biggest contributors to today's ISU loss.

That said, you can't judge officiating by on a "fair and balanced" basis. Sometimes, one team plays a sloppy game, and another team doesn't. That was the case today. There were a couple more terrible holding penalties Iowa could have been called for. And, as mentioned above, the missed offensive PI was awful. Let's not forget the side judge trying to give Iowa a first down by spotting the ball forward a full yard.

If you feel that the reffing was one-sided, I invite you to talk about specific plays that support your argument. Yes, I'm an ISU fan, so I'm biased. But I like to think that I'm fairly impartial when it comes to officiating. I'll call out ISU fans for wearing cardinal glasses when they complain about calls.
 

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Wait...what? Iowa has a reputation as one of the worst offensive teams in college football, had a first year starter making his debut on the road, and they scored 44 points (38 in regulation) and had 500 yards of offense on us...AT JTS. The defense is just bad. Really bad.
Yep, I'm really not sure our defense is any better from last year at all. Honestly our offense will be the one to keep us in games. Have we ever been able to say that before?
 

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Wadley is a top player he makes everything pretty easy for the QB and TEs on Iowa.

He was also on their team last year when their offense was pathetic. For that matter, he was also on their team LAST WEEK when their offense was pathetic. Wyoming held them to 24 points and 240 yards in Kinnick.