Sad thing about the portal & NIL

brett108

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How do you think this kid will do in college with this deal? Given his family lineage, I bet not well. This just fuels his demise. Why should he have gotten NIL money over some other more worthy kid?
He was already to the son of a celebrity. He can either handle it by now or he will never be able to handle it.
 

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hate to be a coach now with this nil and boosters. if someone is paying a lot for a player and they aren’t playing i’m sure they will be having a talk with the coach. it’s sort of like the town doctor or lawyer whose kid isn’t playing
There are literally millions of reasons ($$$$$) not to feel sorry for coaches.
 
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The summary here is that these kids/adults should trust agents/businessmen to help them with the money they're getting from the irresponsible agents/businessmen/adults.
 
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Pretty sure older generations don't know what to do with people my age who don't want to be exploited for no gain. My contract says I work 40 hours I set down what I'm working on at the 40th hour. I get to work 7 minutes early I'm not logging in to check emails. It's my day off I am not answering a work phone call. Etc....
And you will always be serving the needs of someone else. Not everyone your age has your attitude. You also think all the crusty old people that did what was needed to be successful should be paying that NIL$ so you can continue to be entertained.
 
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Not a fan of NIL in it's current form. It is basically legalizing the under the table payments that have happened for years.

But I feel we are in an unregulated period and that will change. IMO one step would be transparency. NIL deals should be public info not only for the athlete but the people investing in the NIL funds. I would be curious how the tax laws will treat NIL- less from an athlete vs donor.

I am a believer that a college scholarship is compensation enough. Not sure the exact number for ISU student athletes, but my guess is Iowa State invests over $250,000 annually in training & educating all student-athletes. Coaching and facilities are part of that investment- so obviously the amount invested in football and basketball student athletes is higher than my $250,000 figure.

I understand the argument that the billions of revenue for football and basketball causes resentment by those athletes. But that revenue is used by ISU to provide scholarships and sport development training for all the other student athletes at ISU. I like the current model for that reason.

My issue is with the professional sports leagues. The NBA and NFL should have a tiered minor league similar to baseball. If kids are driven by wanting to make a salary and NIL $, there should be professional opportunities provide by the NBA and NFL. The Supreme Court has been clear about the NCAA. But what about the NBA & NFL rules restricting a players ability to earn based on age.

IMO college hoops and football would continue to thrive if the elite HS talents bypassed college and jumped immediately to pro ball. If that meant a defunding of college athletics by TV and sponsors- great. If it means reductions in budgets for coaches and athletic facilities - awesome.

NIL money is here to stay. I just think if elite athletes were given professional league opportunities, we would see college athlete NIL deals like intended. X player getting a car or cash for appearing in advertising for a dealership. Or $10,000 dollars for being a restaurants spokesperson, etc.

I would have no issue if a player chooses the NBA minor league path out of HS and fail- allowing them to come back, receive a scholarship and play college hoops up to maybe 24 years old.
 

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Pretty sure older generations don't know what to do with people my age who don't want to be exploited for no gain. My contract says I work 40 hours I set down what I'm working on at the 40th hour. I get to work 7 minutes early I'm not logging in to check emails. It's my day off I am not answering a work phone call. Etc....
I know what I do. I look for your replacement.
 

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NIL and transfer portal is going to be the end of the ncaa. Kids now have no commitment to who they sign with or anything in life and these rules just enable that. Every sport there is a problem with a player actually wanting to start and end their careers at the same place. There’s not too many niangs or monte Morris’ anymore. This is set up for the rich to get richer and the rest of us to find the talent and groom them into a player really nice only to give them to a blue blood who does no work and reaps the rewards.
I don't think it means the end of college sport. Heck, who knows if the NCAA was going to exist much longer based on recent court ruling and Supreme Court statements.

Maybe each sport will have their own oversight.

NIL has opened people's eyes, because other people making money seems to catch our attention and get our ire up.

But the numbers of players in the transfer portal over the last 3-5 years has opened my eyes in how bad the system is broken at the D1 level.

With 1000+ hoops players in the transfer portal, it's pretty obvious the NCAA and colleges have created a structure where an academic focus and developing a bond between athlete & university are missing.

Maybe graduation rates won't suffer- but curious what they look like in 2-3 years. And maybe that isn't even a good measure vs job placement/career.
 

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"I wish AAU sports and that culture would replace the college sports landscape." Welcome to scumville everybody. How low can we go? If you are lucky enough to receive benefit from the new landscape, kudos to you! For those on the giving end... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO!
 

isucy86

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Pretty sure older generations don't know what to do with people my age who don't want to be exploited for no gain. My contract says I work 40 hours I set down what I'm working on at the 40th hour. I get to work 7 minutes early I'm not logging in to check emails. It's my day off I am not answering a work phone call. Etc....
If you can earn a living and be satisfied in you job performance great.

But the reason older generations like me worked the extra hours was maybe that was the best way to gain/advance. To excel and be identified by co-workers as being someone they can count on.

The concept is no different than sport. The great athletes spend extra time in the weight room, in film study or on the court/field honing their craft. Because the reality is for most people to be great in their job, sport or any hobby is spending time doing it.

If you can excel without putting in extra time- great. Or if your goal isn't to standout- that's great too. In some environments the later might work, but maybe not so much in competitive environments or those focused on cost containment/reduction.

That said, I agree 100% outside work hours- that is your time.
 
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Pretty sure older generations don't know what to do with people my age who don't want to be exploited for no gain. My contract says I work 40 hours I set down what I'm working on at the 40th hour. I get to work 7 minutes early I'm not logging in to check emails. It's my day off I am not answering a work phone call. Etc....
It's pretty obvious that what you need is an agent looking out for your best interests to help you understand how to handle the opportunities handed to you that you definitely didn't earn
 

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I know what I do. I look for your replacement.
Shouldn't you, the wise businessman, be looking to help the youths of today so they can succeed later? Firing someone for meeting the terms of their contract?

What if the person that works 40 hours on the nose is supremely efficient at their work and outdoes their peers? Should that person be rewarded with more hours of work just because you hired several inefficient people that need 55 hours to do the work one person does in 40?
 

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Giving kids money like this in college will lead to a lot more kids who had professional capabilities flaming out in college. They will now have all this money and no one to guide them. No sports agent will be around to give them advice. They will get lazy and waste their opportunities. It will also attract low life people hanging around them bleeding them dry for wine, women and song. This is impending disaster. Many of these kids will end up with no money and no college degree. That's a shame!
I am hoping this is a sarcastic post making fun of all the slippery slope doom and gloom loonies who are freaking out right now.
 

randomfan44

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That's exactly my point. These aren't children. If they **** it up, and blow all of their NIL money, well... that sucks. Nobody to blame but themselves.
No kidding. It's no different than every other college aged kid who blows all their part time job money on beer and stupid stuff.
 

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