The blood is in the water
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The penultimate hire in the history of Iowa State football was Gene Chizik. Truly a coach that a school with the tradition and resources of Iowa State has no business being able to hire.
What was his, and his staff's impression of the quality of program Iowa State is? We found in stillwater.
That's the impression and reputation of Iowa State football. We will never again get a first choice of a coach. Watch what is said about Paul Rhoads and the quality of coach he is when you all get your wish.
I have already said he should go because there has to be something to sell. But it ain't the coach that has caused Iowa State to suck these last two years. And if you all aren't going to make the necessary changes to structurally alter the reality of what Iowa State football is, it ain't going to be the next coach's fault either, or the one after that, or after that, hell we can go on till the end of time.
3rd largest university in the conference, and by far the smallest donor base. Facilities and budget now only a decade or so behind, still in danger of losing place in P5 conference, less than zero tradition, huge geographical disadvantage... But it's the coach.
Well done
What was his, and his staff's impression of the quality of program Iowa State is? We found in stillwater.
That's the impression and reputation of Iowa State football. We will never again get a first choice of a coach. Watch what is said about Paul Rhoads and the quality of coach he is when you all get your wish.
I have already said he should go because there has to be something to sell. But it ain't the coach that has caused Iowa State to suck these last two years. And if you all aren't going to make the necessary changes to structurally alter the reality of what Iowa State football is, it ain't going to be the next coach's fault either, or the one after that, or after that, hell we can go on till the end of time.
3rd largest university in the conference, and by far the smallest donor base. Facilities and budget now only a decade or so behind, still in danger of losing place in P5 conference, less than zero tradition, huge geographical disadvantage... But it's the coach.
Well done
No sense arguing, I respect your opinion, we are just a couple accountants with differing views on things. And I dont blame you for sticking up for Rhoads, he is one of the nicest guys I have ever met. I wish it would have worked out but it hasn't.
Write more checks, huh? Writing more checks has nothing to do with the inability to beat UNI, NDSU, and KU. Enough tens of millions have been spent to accomplish this BASIC task. And the fact it has not paid off is now part of the problem for the program in convincing me (and I would suspect many others) to write more checks.
I don't have to read cyclove's posts anymore either. They all say the same thing. First he starts out by calling someone intellectually deficient or just says they are idiots who don't know anything. Then he goes into multiple paragraphs about how we all don't donate enough money.
CycloneErik
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Lol. Nice understanding.
First, these tens of millions are a pretty recent investment, see budget from 3 years ago.
But yeah, never let things like facts get in the way.
It's amazing that you all can't figure out I'm agreeing with you on firing him. But again never let facts get in the way.
So, in other words, never let agreeing with everyone prevent you from going off on your screed about donation levels?
Our biggest problem offensively is that we are doing what everyone else is doing with inferior athletes. Going to Texas and Florida and scooping up everyone that the schools down there didn't want isn't going to help anyone. Do you honestly think that any kid from Texas or florida wants to come here? We need to develop a pro-style offense and get more kids from the upper Midwest where ISU actually might mean a little more to them.
Remember the something like 50-0 shellacking of OSU from the seventies. We have not experienced that since.
No, in other words, look at the entirety of the problem.
In other words, understand the facts about the situation, and show the commitment to resolving them.
In other words, all the drizzling ***** spouting off about its just the coach, and how replacing him will magically bring this "realistic" level of success that has never EVER ( just read Chris Jericho ' s new book I highly recommend it) been done in 125 years here is ******* stupid and not based in reality.
In other words, realize that all of these great improvements that are supposed to somehow make Iowa State this attractive job, are still years behind the people we play every year. And even worse, we had to borrow against future tv money to get them done in the first place. In other words, show me another school we have to compete against that has to do that, other than Kansas.
In other words, I'm sure it's just the coach, not the by far lowest donor base in the conference. And when nothing changes and in 5 years, we're here again with the same drizzlers, who have never changed, spouting off on the next guy and how he can't coach, we can do it all over again
Yeah, that totally explains losing those games to teams from lower conferences\divisions like UNI\NDSU\Tulsa or other teams that were in the same realignment boat like Kansas
Not saying that this is not factual, but I'd be interested in seeing the actual numbers.
This is complete rumor so please take with a light grain of salt.
But a guy I work with said he was listening to sports radio and a rumor floating around was that Stoops might come to ISU. To tell you how vague it is, he cant even remember which one (Mike is the only possibility obviously) but the thought of him seemed interesting.
But a guy I work with said he was listening to sports radio and a rumor floating around was that Stoops might come to ISU. To tell you how vague it is, he cant even remember which one (Mike is the only possibility obviously) but the thought of him seemed interesting.
