The blood is in the water

[cylove]

This crap bothers me. KSU, Baylor and OSU really did not seem affected by this. Tech was only affected because of poor coaching hires. (Sounds familiar!)

Of course facts bother you, I have read some of your stuff.


OSU was not in any trouble of being demoted, so I have no idea where you would have gotten that. Tech was linked by the state legislature to UT so, nope no problems there.

Baylor was in mad trouble, along with us, the two most vulnerable schools. However, a transcendent player, a former Texas high school football coach, and of course location location location.

Let me ask you this, since all you all seem to be asking for is a consistent 6 game winner (lol). What would be an example of that for you in the conference we play in?

Who would you say is the standard 6 win middle of the pack Big 12 team?

 

[cylove]

I've come to the conclusion that cylove is either Paul Rhoads or a close relative. He spreads more rainbows than a box of Lucky Charms.

Wow. Nevermind Erik, I owe you an apology. Please forgive me for being so harsh on your reading skills/

 

[cylove]

What made-up BS. Please back up your claim by linking just one quote - ONE - from a prospective recruit saying that he wanted to be a Cyclone, but "I just wasn't sure if they would be in a big-time conference or not."

Lol, I know that the defend dan at all cost mentality leaves time for anything else.

How's this for a quote: from roughly November 20, 2011

"Mac knew what a great coach Paul is, that's why he hired him."

 

[cylove]

sick of excuses

Lol, then join in with the rest of the "no excuses" menagerie, and support the program to the level that it needs.

But that isn't part of the deal. Just the same old same old. Something about the definition of insantity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result/


I will ask you the same question as two, if all you all expect is a 6 win team, what would be an example in our conference?

 

[JUKEBOX]

Lol, then join in with the rest of the "no excuses" menagerie, and support the program to the level that it needs.

But that isn't part of the deal. Just the same old same old. Something about the definition of insantity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result/


I will ask you the same question as two, if all you all expect is a 6 win team, what would be an example in our conference?

you have to be some shill with connections to the athletic department

 

[swarthmoreCY]

This cylove meltdown is incredible. Every week he gets further and further away from the lack of quality football under Rhoads. Pure comedy at this point. Thank you, cylove.

 

[cylove]

you have to be some shill with connections to the athletic department

Hey what a shock, you won't answer a simple question. I would say I am shocked that you would avoid saying something approaching constructive and substantive, but that really has never been your style.

 

[JUKEBOX]

Hey what a shock, you won't answer a simple question. I would say I am shocked that you would avoid saying something approaching constructive and substantive, but that really has never been your style.

do you have connections to the athletic department?

 

[cylove]

do you have connections to the athletic department?

Absolutely not. I am just a civilian that has been a Cyclone fan since about 1975. I have some experience in coaching high school football in Texas. But that was a long long time ago.

I am not a friend of Paul Rhoads, I do know Cecil, but just in passing. and that was a long time ago, like early 90's.

The point of all of this, is 1) to point out that it is absurd to think that 125 years of futility is a fluke. 2) We are still not on solid ground if the realignment wave kicks in again, and we lost any and all momentum because this happened last time.

And most importantly, 3) If the fans want to see all of this improvement in results, then they need to make the necessary commitments to make it happen, we are 25-30 years behind everyone else in making these improvements, and we are still way way way way way behind financially. I am fairly certain that most of the biggest bitchers don't match their mouths with their checkbooks.

See how hard it is to answer a question honestly?

 

[breck53]

Absolutely not. I am just a civilian that has been a Cyclone fan since about 1975. I have some experience in coaching high school football in Texas. But that was a long long time ago.

I am not a friend of Paul Rhoads, I do know Cecil, but just in passing. and that was a long time ago, like early 90's.

The point of all of this, is 1) to point out that it is absurd to think that 125 years of futility is a fluke. 2) We are still not on solid ground if the realignment wave kicks in again, and we lost any and all momentum because this happened last time.

And most importantly, 3) If the fans want to see all of this improvement in results, then they need to make the necessary commitments to make it happen, we are 25-30 years behind everyone else in making these improvements, and we are still way way way way way behind financially. I am fairly certain that most of the biggest bitchers don't match their mouths with their checkbooks.

See how hard it is to answer a question honestly?

Honest question-what would be wrong for Iowa State to consider going to another conference to be competitive week in and week out? Whats the fun of getting slammed on a consistent basis? I know the financial incentives to stay in the Big Twelve are probably the biggest reasons, but as a fan,wouldnt it be more enjoyable to at least show up knowing you have a great chance of winning football games and going to a bowl more times than not? A serious non-flaming question to the fan base here.

 

[Stewo]

https://twitter.com/M_Jay5/status/533790925021913088
I have no idea how to interpret this.

I have a feeling we're going to see current player deflections at the end of the season. Whether this tweet means something or not (certainly looks bad), he could easily go RS somewhere and still have 3 years to plays. I could certainly see a lot of young guys doing that. I'm starting to think that the worst is yet to come as far as the program falling lower and lower. What an exciting time to be a Cyclone football fan.

 

[CyStalker]

I have a feeling we're going to see current player deflections at the end of the season. Whether this tweet means something or not (certainly looks bad), he could easily go RS somewhere and still have 3 years to plays. I could certainly see a lot of young guys doing that. I'm starting to think that the worst is yet to come as far as the program falling lower and lower. What an exciting time to be a Cyclone football fan.

I read it as his girlfriend misses him and he retweets that, then he says "cyclones over (tears of joy)". So to me it just reads that he chooses cyclones over the happiness of being near each other. Seems mature to me, just a bf/gf that miss each other.

 

[Stewo]

I read it as his girlfriend misses him and he retweets that, then he says "cyclones over (tears of joy)". So to me it just reads that he chooses cyclones over the happiness of being near each other. Seems mature to me, just a bf/gf that miss each other.

You could very well be right. Reading Chinese would be easier for me than to attempt to decipher Twitter. However, my point still stands. There is actually a lot of (young) offensive talent and I wouldn't be shocked to see them go somewhere else to experience a conference win.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Honest question-what would be wrong for Iowa State to consider going to another conference to be competitive week in and week out? Whats the fun of getting slammed on a consistent basis? I know the financial incentives to stay in the Big Twelve are probably the biggest reasons, but as a fan,wouldnt it be more enjoyable to at least show up knowing you have a great chance of winning football games and going to a bowl more times than not? A serious non-flaming question to the fan base here.

Because we're still waiting for our Big 10 invite...


(I swear, if I need a ...)

 

[jdoggivjc]

You could very well be right. Reading Chinese would be easier for me than to attempt to decipher Twitter. However, my point still stands. There is actually a lot of (young) offensive talent and I wouldn't be shocked to see them go somewhere else to experience a conference win.

And as these players leave the rainbow crowd will continue to excuse this as "too tough to win at ISU" instead of realizing that a quality coaching staff wouldn't be giving those players reason to shop around at other schools.

 

[Stewo]

And as these players leave the rainbow crowd will continue to excuse this as "too tough to win at ISU" instead of realizing that a quality coaching staff wouldn't be giving those players reason to shop around at other schools.

The formula for success exists for schools like ISU. The obvious example is KSU. It's not impossible, it just takes the right staff. A staff proven in the development of players over a 4 or 5 year period of time. It's not rocket science.

 

[ThatllDoCy]

There are good points to be made on both sides of this debate. The new football facility is just opening, and the new stadium will be impressive. Historically, it is completely accurate to say that ISU does not take foot ball as seriously as the other schools. Having the third largest stadium will be a big boon to our image as a program.

Paul is learning on the job. He was a heck of a DC and had an undefeated season at Auburn with Tuberville. You have a guy that is from the area, and has been at other programs that have success. Hopefully, he has a plan to fix what we see on the field. I think the Offense will thrive with the new staff having a recruiting class or two under their belt. We still have Messingham's recruits.

The Defense is just snakebit this year with injuries and the turnover and misses at DL and LB are absolutely killing this team. If Wally retires Paul needs to bring in an aggressive Coach that can recruit and is fun to play for.

Paul sits down with Pollard every year and they review the plan. Linemen and Linebackers don't just show up out of nowhere so hopefully the pipeline is going to provide an upgrade in talent or next year could be more of the same.

 

[Tornado man]

Lol, I know that the defend dan at all cost mentality leaves time for anything else.

How's this for a quote: from roughly November 20, 2011

"Mac knew what a great coach Paul is, that's why he hired him."

I knew you wouldn't provide any evidence for your claim. Baylor, TTech, Kansas, and K-State were in the same danger we were if the Big 12 dissolved. What crap.

 

[CycloneErik]

There are good points to be made on both sides of this debate. The new football facility is just opening, and the new stadium will be impressive. Historically, it is completely accurate to say that ISU does not take foot ball as seriously as the other schools. Having the third largest stadium will be a big boon to our image as a program.

Paul is learning on the job. He was a heck of a DC and had an undefeated season at Auburn with Tuberville. You have a guy that is from the area, and has been at other programs that have success. Hopefully, he has a plan to fix what we see on the field. I think the Offense will thrive with the new staff having a recruiting class or two under their belt. We still have Messingham's recruits.

The Defense is just snakebit this year with injuries and the turnover and misses at DL and LB are absolutely killing this team. If Wally retires Paul needs to bring in an aggressive Coach that can recruit and is fun to play for.

Paul sits down with Pollard every year and they review the plan. Linemen and Linebackers don't just show up out of nowhere so hopefully the pipeline is going to provide an upgrade in talent or next year could be more of the same.

Didn't Rhoads only do one season at Auburn, and that's the one where they fired the OC around game 2, and Tubs left at the end of the year after a losing season?

 

[MrPeske]

Love the "If Rhoads cannot succeed here, nobody can." Why do people keep saying this. It's as if they think he is a proven head coach with tons of years of head coaching experience. I honestly think some of you determine what a good coach is based on how passionate and proud they are.

So who was the last coach w success here? Most of our ex coaches do better after they leave as the deck isn't stacked against them so much.

Rhodes stating ladder climbers will do better... Nice guess, there Re no examples.

CPR deserves more time. If he can't get better DL, LB or OL and build some depth then the experiment should be ended. Our depth is gone and our starters can't get the job done. Injuries have plagued us and we ran out best DTs which didn't help our record. Without deptha and upperclassmen starters we have no hope.