*** Official #15 IOWA STATE vs #9 Kansas Game(Day) Thread ***

[NWICY]

ISU needs a win badly. They're a tough team but eventually these close losses wear on a group.

SATURDAY BABY!!!! I'm still believing!!

 

[enisthemenace]

It used to be the way you have it laid out. They can in fact initiate review without a common foul whistled now.

Well, ****. Thanks.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

SATURDAY BABY!!!! I'm still believing!!

I'll be there. Need the win badly

 

[NENick]

We got the big screw job by the zebras at the phog but at the end should have never let the Kansas player penetrate the paint for a somewhat easy shot I feel we should have put more pressure on them for that last possession

Maybe penetrated too easily, but that was not an easy shot.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

We got the big screw job by the zebras at the phog but at the end should have never let the Kansas player penetrate the paint for a somewhat easy shot I feel we should have put more pressure on them for that last possession

It's tough. Even the slightest of bumps was resulting in a foul in favor of KU tonight. Especially in the final 5

 

[quasistellar]

It's BS the WAY the guys lost tonight, but to be fair I had mentally written this off as a loss before the game started. It was a road game at KU after all. And our win over TTU is looking better every day.

Our first conference games are an absolutely ridiculous gauntlet. We could start really slow and still finish the season with 8+ conference wins. Just gotta win at home!

I still like what I'm seeing out of the team. Just gotta be a little (just a little!) sharper on offense at this point to complement the defense. If Enaruna and Hunter continue to improve (I think those 2 have the most upside) good things will come. I can tell the team has bought in with TJ and that's by far the most important thing.

 

[CloneGuy8]

Hopefully we take out the rage on Texas and beat them by 80. I'm a reasonable man so I'll settle for 55.

 

[CYDJ]

So here's the thing, if you can go back to review the difference between 2 and 3 points. Why can't you review the difference between 0 and 2 points? Seems really illogical.

 

[Macloney]

We played Jones down to 24 seconds and if FT's were big concern he would have been pulled after Caleb's shot.

I doubt Jones would have touched the ball if he was in at end. Jaz has a jump shot in case the half court offense broke down. I'm sure staff was expecting a good shot to happen closer to clock expiring.

But we scored early and missed having a shot blocker when Harris drove for winning bucket.

I told you the reason. It's on you if you don't like it.

 

[cymac2408]

IMO TJ wants to keep his team focussed on what is controllable. By screaming at the officials he's putting his energy other than on his guys during TO's, etc.

I get that but sometimes as a coach. You have to show your players that you will fight just as hard for them as they are fighting on the court.

 

[fcclone]

So here's the thing, if you can go back to review the difference between 2 and 3 points. Why can't you review the difference between 0 and 2 points? Seems really illogical.

I don‘t think the issue is whether or not the play can be reviewed. The real issue is, how can three officials miss that obvious of a call in the first place?

 

[NENick]

I thought Jones played well, but still wonder why GC only played 14 minutes. Was he sick or did TJ just like how RJ was playing?

 

[t-noah]

This is what needs answered in my book. Just like you cannot review a play to determine if basket interference occurred if not originally called, you cannot review a play to determine if a foul occurred.

There was no foul called on Jones during the course of normal game play. I don’t think the rule says an official can stop play and review to determine if a foul (common or flagrant) occurred in the past. If a foul is called, that foul call can be reviewed to see if it should be upgraded to flagrant (1 or 2), remain common OR be called a flop (flagrant the other way), but a foul has to be called first.

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but that is my understanding of the rule, and that didn’t happen on the Jones Flagrant 1. The officials, in that moment, used replay to determine if a foul occurred, called one AND upgraded it to Flagrant after a review.

The play stoppage was too long. It also benefited KU in the end. I could see maybe a foul there, but not a flagrant IMO.

I hope we destroy KU in Ames. And maybe get some calls we shouldn't. Why is it KU in Lawrence so often gets the wrong calls?

It's like there is a ref or two in someone's pocket. Imagine that. Oh that 3rd free throw a few years ago, when they should have only had two, was a dousy.

 

[cyclones500]

Beyond the officiating stuff ... this season is beginning to remind me of 2012-13.

That involves positive and not-quite-so-positive aspects.

Mostly positive. Sometimes.

 

[cymac2408]

The Irish and German parts of me are continually at odds...

Do I drink the beer or the whiskey?

 

[CYEATHAWK]

I get that but sometimes as a coach. You have to show your players that you will fight just as hard for them as they are fighting on the court.

Agree %100. I like the fact he has his guys focused and not complaining at calls during the game........just like LE did. But in games like this where it isn't just the 5 KU players you are fighting against......it never hurts to have a little LE in you.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

I thought Jones played well, but still wonder why GC only played 14 minutes. Was he sick or did TJ just like how RJ was playing?

He was pulled in the first half after his second foul. Beyond that, I got nuthin'.

 

[GoldCard]

Does anyone remember where bad calls gave us a win?

Seems like a better question may be does anyone remember the last time the refs cost KU a win?

 

[CYDJ]

they played a part, but I reckon had we made a couple other shots we probably would have won too.
Can’t put the game in the refs hands. Probably shouldn’t let air ball shoot the last shot of the game either

Wrong in so many ways.

 

[madguy30]

Beyond the officiating stuff ... this season is beginning to remind me of 2012-13.

That involves positive and not-quite-so-positive aspects.

Mostly positive. Sometimes.

That team just sort of dorked around and figured out how to get in to the tourney but at least this group is reliable to bring this type of energy every game.

Hope they can push through and play some late March ball.