Officiating at the end of the Iowa game

BCClone

Well Seen Member.
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Sep 4, 2011
67,672
63,741
113
Not exactly sure.
I do feel for Iowa that their fumble was too close to call in replay. Either call would’ve stood.

The 20 yard penalty in final seconds was bizarre for numerous reasons.

Otherwise less controversial than our average game.
The replay they showed in the stadium had a great angle where you saw the ball coming loose before his arm even got to the line. They showed it a couple times and it was clearly the right call.
 

HFCS

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2010
75,741
66,123
113
LA LA Land
The replay they showed in the stadium had a great angle where you saw the ball coming loose before his arm even got to the line. They showed it a couple times and it was clearly the right call.

I think it was the right call, but had they called it a TD, I’m guessing they don’t overturn. Some luck involved on getting call on the field.

It was nothing like our Memphis game where Montgomery was at least a full yard into the endzone with the ball before it came loose. That was such crap given how he hadn’t lost a fumble other that blown call.
 

HFCS

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2010
75,741
66,123
113
LA LA Land
Sure looked like it. Plus their players trying to start something on the way to the locker room.

This is the beginning of the end for the ferrets family coaching at Iowa and the eventual downfall of Hok football. We can all rejoice.

End of B10W could be rough, especially combined with a less than ideal coaching transition.

I say that remembering we had a few years where B12N was so much weaker than the south before we went to the 9 game round robin. That transition definitely made our schedule more of a grind for a few years (playing OKSt/OU/TCU/Baylor/Texas every single year when all were pretty good or great) until Campbell got us up to speed to handle it.
 

cyclonehomer

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Dec 2, 2019
3,496
5,677
113
30
I look forward to it. No, I don't think people line up in the neutral zone 20+ times every game, that's silly.
Why be like this? It's a very common thing for a player to be slightly in the neutral zone and have it go uncalled, I actually can't believe someone is acting like this is a crazy revelation. Calling it when they did is odd, maybe it was right but I don't believe so. Adding another 15 on without a warning for something that is *always* given a warning is even worse.

It's also a subjective call anyway.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: VeloClone and HFCS

Trice

Well-Known Member
Apr 1, 2010
7,319
12,186
113
Sure looked like it. Plus their players trying to start something on the way to the locker room.

This is the beginning of the end for the ferrets family coaching at Iowa and the eventual downfall of Hok football. We can all rejoice.

If you really believe this, you vastly underestimate the grip he has on that athletic program. Barta works for him, not the other way around. His coaching obituary has been written numerous times now, and every time he survives.

If the 2020 scandal can't kill him, nothing will.
 
Last edited:

HFCS

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2010
75,741
66,123
113
LA LA Land
If you really believe this, you vastly underestimate the grip he has on that athletic program. Barta works for him, not the other way around. His coaching obituary has been written numerous times now, and every time he survives.

If the 2020s scandal can't kill him, nothing will.

I totally get why KF runs things. You can’t argue with the consistency and they’ll be lucky for the next coach to maintain what he built. This nepotism is going to hurt his legacy going out but he’s done a lot. He deserves statues and things named after him there every bit as much has HF if not more.

What I don’t get…is Barta seems to have the same permanent loyalty to Fran who is just permanently mediocre. I think they could’ve rolled the dice on 2-3 coaches in same time frame and likely won more NCAA games by now. I mean all 3 of ours have won more in that same time frame, they all got further in NCAA, let alone just one of them.
 

Stormin

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2006
45,477
14,350
113
PI vs no-PI is a lot different than unsportsmanlike for rushing the field. In the first, they discussed and said no penalty actually occurred. What you are asking is for them to say, “technically a penalty occurred, but the official only called it because he thought it was meaningless so we’re going to pick it up.” Big, big difference. Those unsportsmanlike penalties get called all of the time in situations like that at the end of a game. This is the first time I’ve ever seen one almost impact the game. But officials call it all of the time. And they can’t just pick a flag like that up.

BS. I saw officials at K-State game a couple years ago. Officials picked up PI flags. Cost the Cyclones the game.
 

Trice

Well-Known Member
Apr 1, 2010
7,319
12,186
113
I totally get why KF runs things. You can’t argue with the consistency and they’ll be lucky for the next coach to maintain what he built. This nepotism is going to hurt his legacy going out but he’s done a lot. He deserves statues and things named after him there every bit as much has HF if not more.

What I don’t get…is Barta seems to have the same permanent loyalty to Fran who is just permanently mediocre. I think they could’ve rolled the dice on 2-3 coaches in same time frame and likely won more NCAA games by now. I mean all 3 of ours have won more in that same time frame, they all got further in NCAA, let alone just one of them.

I think Barta is just a weak, scared manager who's afraid to rock the boat in any way because taking a gamble and losing could put his own career in jeopardy. They've spent decades cultivating a fan base to accept consistent, high-level mediocrity with the occasional breakthrough. If the fans swallow that year after year, why change?
 
  • Like
Reactions: cytor

HFCS

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2010
75,741
66,123
113
LA LA Land
I think Barta is just a weak, scared manager who's afraid to rock the boat in any way because taking a gamble and losing could put his own career in jeopardy. They've spent decades cultivating a fan base to accept consistent, high-level mediocrity with the occasional breakthrough. If the fans swallow that year after year, why change?

I think their fans are right to enjoy the fb success even though this current thing with Brian and the offense has to be maddening.

In basketball I think a lot of them might be brainwashed or haven’t added up what other Big Ten teams and/or ISU have done recently. It’s like they tunnel vision the one year under SP that ISU collapsed and ignore the piles of Big 12 trophies and 3 recent Sweet 16s.
 

Trice

Well-Known Member
Apr 1, 2010
7,319
12,186
113
I think their fans are right to enjoy the fb success even though this current thing with Brian and the offense has to be maddening.

In basketball I think a lot of them might be brainwashed or haven’t added up what other Big Ten teams and/or ISU have done recently. It’s like they tunnel vision the one year under SP that ISU collapsed and ignore the piles of Big 12 trophies and 3 recent Sweet 16s.

Sure, they should enjoy it. But it's also a bit of a mirage. Has anyone in CFB benefited from a weak division more than Iowa? Obviously you still have to make the plays and win the games, and they deserve credit for that. But Iowa is the poster child for the fraudulent team that racks up wins in a weak division hidden from the real powers in its conference most seasons, and gets exposed most of the time it faces elite competition.
 

HFCS

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2010
75,741
66,123
113
LA LA Land
Sure, they should enjoy it. But it's also a bit of a mirage. Has anyone in CFB benefited from a weak division more than Iowa? Obviously you still have to make the plays and win the games, and they deserve credit for that. But Iowa is the poster child for the fraudulent team that racks up wins in a weak division hidden from the real powers in its conference most seasons, and gets exposed most of the time it faces elite competition.

If I’m going to try to compare to us…we’ve beaten or lost close to OU lately. Mixed results against next tier of conference in OKSt/Baylor but definitely hang with them. Pounded Oregon, played Clemson very close in loss.

The one time we truly got the doors blown off because of talent disparity was Notre Dame.
 

CYdTracked

Well-Known Member
Mar 23, 2006
18,596
9,424
113
Grimes, IA
Geez he won't let it go, still at it overnight
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot_20220911-064731_Facebook.jpg
    Screenshot_20220911-064731_Facebook.jpg
    668.1 KB · Views: 179
  • Screenshot_20220911-064944_Facebook.jpg
    Screenshot_20220911-064944_Facebook.jpg
    581.5 KB · Views: 179
  • Screenshot_20220911-064853_Facebook.jpg
    Screenshot_20220911-064853_Facebook.jpg
    427.8 KB · Views: 179
  • Dumb
Reactions: VeloClone

Cloneon

Well-Known Member
Oct 29, 2015
3,006
3,120
113
West Virginia
Picking up the X flag, and the gifting Iowa 20 yards were not the calls Capt Kirk wanted to talk about in his post game presser.
He whined about the fumble at the goal line because his coaches upstairs said the ball broke the plane. So in Kirk''s mind, damn the review, his coaches said it was a TD.
Maybe someone can elaborate. I only saw one angle on the Iowa fumble. At first I thought he broke the plane, but upon looking at it in slow motion, it looks like he didn't even have the ball when he broke the plane. Were there other angles of review I wasn't able to see?
 

CloneSt8

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Aug 1, 2011
679
1,345
93
...But once the laundry is on the field, you can’t just pick it back up.
You mean like the officials did during the ISU - KSU game a few years ago? Three times? All in favor of KSU and costing the Cyclones the game? (But, hey, I am not still bitter about that! No, not bitter!)
 

ISUAlum2002

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2006
22,888
5,141
113
Toon Town, IA
You mean like the officials did during the ISU - KSU game a few years ago? Three times? All in favor of KSU and costing the Cyclones the game? (But, hey, I am not still bitter about that! No, not bitter!)

Think they picked up 4 flags in that game, all that would have gone against KSU. They also missed an obvious false start on a KSU receiver that ended up catching a TD pass on the same play. I'm not bitter either.....nope.