Steve Prohm returns as head coach at Murray State

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It seems most coaches get an extension every few years so they can give recruits assurance they’ll be there, I think Prohm had less than 4 years left at the time. Coming off a B12 tourney title and Bama opening gave Prohm and his agent bargaining power at the perfect time. I didn’t like the extension at the time either but I also didn’t think Prohm deserved to be fired yet. Really left Pollard with no choice and hard to blame him when he’s hit home runs with recent coaching hires otherwise (word is he wanted Otz over Prohm initially anyways)
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You go from that, to this........




You do understand that B12 title you say gave his agent bargaining power, and convinced you he didn't deserve to be fired was void of any inherited talent?
I said fired YET. Coincidental you’d cut that part out. But yes, I didn’t think firing a coach a week after winning the B12 tourney was appropriate. That team had underperformed relative to their talent capabilities in the regular season and that tourney run probably saved his job. But I had never been sold on Prohm and the failed seasons following reaffirmed those concerns.
 

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You go from that, to this........




You do understand that B12 title you say gave his agent bargaining power, and convinced you he didn't deserve to be fired was void of any inherited talent?
I also said MOSTLY inherited. This was an instance where he acquired this talent… and underachieved with them throughout the season until the B12 tourney.
 

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I hope Prohm does well but if he doesn't do well this time at Murray, he might not get another HC shot.
Yep, 100%. Watched his opening presser there and he knows it. He also knows his reputation is awful with potential recruits and the move to the Valley is going to be really tough. He is going to have to prove a lot this time around and if he’s successful, no one can say it was someone else’s work unlike his first Murray tenure or his time in Ames.

I think Steve is a guy who will be fine personally whatever happens at Murray now, but I don’t think he was that way with the ISU job. The failure here affected him personally and I think the year off allowed him to reflect and decide what he’s going to truly value going forward. Murray is as much of a “home” as his family has and if he can find success there, it will be quite a thing to watch.
 

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As a new coach, you have more patience from your fanbase when things are awful. Coming in when expectations are high and you’re taking over for one of the most beloved figures in program history is high-stakes. I’m glad Steve is no longer our coach as I think he was a bad fit from the start, but I don’t think a large percentage of Cyclone fans were going to ever give him a chance because he was never going to measure up to Fred. Someone had to take over the program and it happened to be Steve. I think anyone in his position would have failed in the eyes of many, and I include TJ in that if he’d gotten the job back then.
If he’d have won 22 games and made the Sweet Sixteen with his own guys the fans would have given him plenty of chance.
 
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Yep, 100%. Watched his opening presser there and he knows it. He also knows his reputation is awful with potential recruits and the move to the Valley is going to be really tough. He is going to have to prove a lot this time around and if he’s successful, no one can say it was someone else’s work unlike his first Murray tenure or his time in Ames.

I think Steve is a guy who will be fine personally whatever happens at Murray now, but I don’t think he was that way with the ISU job. The failure here affected him personally and I think the year off allowed him to reflect and decide what he’s going to truly value going forward. Murray is as much of a “home” as his family has and if he can find success there, it will be quite a thing to watch.
CSP will have a tall task ahead of him. First he needs some Jimmy’s and Joes. Then if he can find some success, the transfer portal is waiting to steal his players. Just for kicks and giggles throw in switching conferences. Hope he can make, or find some good luck. Guess he found a new gig, maybe that’s a start.
 

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Prohm will probably not make it long term. He’s taking over a decimated program that’s moving up to the MVC.
 

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I said fired YET. Coincidental you’d cut that part out. But yes, I didn’t think firing a coach a week after winning the B12 tourney was appropriate. That team had underperformed relative to their talent capabilities in the regular season and that tourney run probably saved his job. But I had never been sold on Prohm and the failed seasons following reaffirmed those concerns.
I don't think that he deserved to be fired at that point, but Pollard definitely could have nudged him toward Alabama. I think that Hoiberg was available at that time. The problem was that it seemed like the relationship between FH and JP had soured a little, so Pollard doubled down on Prohm, which was a big mistake. What's done is done I guess.

One thing Prohm has going for him is that Murray is home. Just like TJ, when you are at a place that you know and believe in, selling to recruits has to be easier. He also has a good history with PGs and so does Murray St, so getting that piece shouldn't be super difficult for him. I think his connections down there plus a step up in conferences should help him recruit. He's going to have to hit the portal pretty hard this year, but being at a location with a lot of surrounding talent, he should have a chance to hit the ground running.
 

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I don't think that he deserved to be fired at that point, but Pollard definitely could have nudged him toward Alabama. I think that Hoiberg was available at that time. The problem was that it seemed like the relationship between FH and JP had soured a little, so Pollard doubled down on Prohm, which was a big mistake. What's done is done I guess.

One thing Prohm has going for him is that Murray is home. Just like TJ, when you are at a place that you know and believe in, selling to recruits has to be easier. He also has a good history with PGs and so does Murray St, so getting that piece shouldn't be super difficult for him. I think his connections down there plus a step up in conferences should help him recruit. He's going to have to hit the portal pretty hard this year, but being at a location with a lot of surrounding talent, he should have a chance to hit the ground running.
His recruiting here called into question his level of contacts anywhere.
 
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