Because the two programs that generate an 14 million dollars per team, will pay whatever settlement they agree to, and go to the sec.
I am not surprised you don’t understand this, sadly.
Because the two programs that generate an 14 million dollars per team, will pay whatever settlement they agree to, and go to the sec.
I am not surprised you don’t understand this, sadly.
IMHO odds are for a short term "revenue hit"So have we accepted the fact that the Big 12 is going to expand with a revenue hit yet or are we still hopeful we get placed in another conference?
Sorry, you have a good response earlier, got busy and didn’t have a chance to respond.
I guess it depends on what you think we are discussing in terms of dollars. To replace what we have currently would be in the neighborhood of 40 million per team. So what would you say is a realistic number?
With the amount of money involved, this will be a Disney call, so I doubt it! ESPN will have to get the schools to pay!Espn will pay a lump sum, maybe the remaining tv dollars, or a negotiated sum, because there is no way they want the schools to stay, and the schools certainly don’t either
Why and how did this thread turn into Gonzo v everybody?
With the amount of money involved, this will be a Disney call, so I doubt it! ESPN will have to get the schools to pay!
I just think if and when Amazon decides to get into the game of college football, and I think they will pretty soon, that they won't have a problem maybe overpaying somewhat. They're going to probably want to make a big splash. And a teams value to them might be a bit different than say FOX or ESPN (boo!) because they currently have zero inventory of games and minimal sunk costs. And as others have talked about on here Amazon would maybe have other ways of making money off their teams other than broadcasting games. Things like teamstores on their website or maybe even Amazon retail teamstores on college campuses.
I'm also assuming here there would be other TV partners involved in the deal supplementing whatever Amazon would pay.
Now maybe that would be just an appetizer for when the B1G & PAC deals come up for negotiation and they make a play there.
Look, if I'm being honest, I was a bit surprised the Big XII got as much money as they did with their TV deal after adding TCU & WV. Pleasantly surprised no doubt, but I was surprised teams were making more than PAC and ACC teams to be honest.
Of course I might be completely wrong on all of this but we'll see.
IMHO odds are for a short term "revenue hit"
As pointed out earlier, streaming offers all three levels of advertising( 'blanket', 'regional', and 'personal'). Blanket is, typically, branding or a very broad level product which most people buy. Regional is your local restaurant, bar, car dealership, etc. And, personal is content based off your internet habits (only if cookies are on or if background entities [eg Google] are marketing your habits). Furthermore, being 'interactive' allows 'clicks' to measure response. The same could be roughly measured using 'enter this code and get a discount' philosophy. To finish, streaming offers a huge benefit over area broadcast to the advertisers. This, can be argued as a plus or minus to the content delivery people (ESPN, FOX, etc). The advertisers want more effective advertising. The content delivery wants the advertisers to 'believe' they have credible purchasing habits of their viewers. And, of course, to not leave out the 'content creators' (ie the schools), they're in the best spot if they can guarantee 'in-stadium' ad revenue (which is showing all game long). But, then again, that's if the content providers don't take a piece of that pie (which I'm sure they would/do).Question: can streaking servces, unlike TV networks, accurately monitor the extra number of devices watching each advertisement placed in live streaming content? Would that lead to payouts based on how well the content delivered eyeballs? I wonder if a any potential conference/college streaming service contract therefore would be very different from the cable/network deals we’ve seen in the past which guarantee payouts regardless of viewership.
As suggested earlier, I believe Amazon can make up the difference by keeping only the eight and aggressively scheduling only P5s OOC. If marketed correctly, it's a big win for Amazon, the A8, and even the other conferences. The A8 would then become the best interconference measuring stick leading up to the CFP. The trump card would be if the other P5s don't want to play ball. That's where Amazon clout can come in, benefitting everyone $$$ wise.You have to remember how close ut and ou were to going to the pac12 then. Espn made a business decision because they didn’t want to lose those brands to fox.
I’m guessing Amazon will be explored, of course, but will they make up the shortfall? If the media draw is what is keeping the remaining 8 from finding new homes, then Amazon will buy at bargain price.
The truly frightening part, and you alluded to it, is that they use the big 12 as a testing ground to learn how, and then move on to some sort of big 10 amalgamation
The contractual obligations are between the Big12 Conference and it's 10 members schools.There is still the matter of the cease and desist order.
Texas and ou will pay their share. Espn will pay a lump sum payout to take care of their exposure to any litigation.
Maybe but I feel we need to go to at least 12 teams. We have been at 10 teams and it is the perfect number due to football and round robin in basketball. But the Big 12 always was put down for total revenue (even though per team we were better), # of draft picks, # of bowls, etc. Recruits hear this negative talk even if crap (hello, Stew Mandel). Plus, the Big East milked 7 teams after their defections and eventually folded. Oliver Luck gave advice to the Big 12 many years ago when he was West Virginia AD that to not be complacent when defections happen. The Big 12 stayed at 10 to appease OU and Texas and didn't work.As suggested earlier, I believe Amazon can make up the difference by keeping only the eight and aggressively scheduling only P5s OOC. If marketed correctly, it's a big win for Amazon, the A8, and even the other conferences. The A8 would then become the best interconference measuring stick leading up to the CFP. The trump card would be if the other P5s don't want to play ball. That's where Amazon clout can come in, benefitting everyone $$$ wise.
Question for posters, do you think any of BYU, cincy,UCF, USF as power level teams?
3/4 ain't badNo, but this is becoming a more interesting question to me as we go through this.
Seems to me that there many programs that wear that label only by association with blue bloods in their conference (by the current average major media definition).
Seems to me, when we're assessing this question, the following things should be looked at:
- Quality of facilities
- The level of commitment to athletics
- The passion of the fan base
- Their history
3/4 ain't bad
No, but this is becoming a more interesting question to me as we go through this.
Seems to me that there many programs that wear that label only by association with blue bloods in their conference (by the current average major media definition).
Seems to me, when we're assessing this question, the following things should be looked at:
- Quality of facilities
- The level of commitment to athletics
- The passion of the fan base
- Their history
BYU,No, but this is becoming a more interesting question to me as we go through this.
Seems to me that there many programs that wear that label only by association with blue bloods in their conference (by the current average major media definition).
Seems to me, when we're assessing this question, the following things should be looked at:
- Quality of facilities
- The level of commitment to athletics
- The passion of the fan base
- Their history
Question for posters, do you think any of BYU, cincy,UCF, USF as power level teams?